105: Beyond the Spreadsheet: The New Era of Payroll | Taped Live at PayrollOrg Congress 2025

Two podcast guests, Kira Rubiano and Michael Steen, wearing headsets and speaking into microphones, are featured on an episode of The Source presented by DailyPay.

Is your company still stuck seeing payroll as a necessary evil? It’s time to change that perspective. The world of global payroll is evolving, and it’s now a powerful strategic asset.

In this episode, Michael Steen and Kira Rubiano from Payrollminds discuss this very shift. Recorded live at the 43rd Annual Payroll Congress, their conversation highlights how companies are moving from reactive to proactive investments in payroll technology, especially with the rise of AI. They also explore the growing presence of global payroll leaders at industry events and the crucial role that community plays in solving complex problems.

1:02 – The growth and community of the Payroll Congress.

8:36 – The challenges and opportunities of modernizing payroll systems.

15:37 – How to make a compelling business case for payroll investment to company leadership.

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